New ships Lunar guardians and elite cargos require same ammount of metal and crystal. 60k and 1.5 mil.

There are needed absurd quantities of crystal to raise level of crystal mines:

For example: to build level 29 crystal mine I need Metal: 24.923.024 Crystal: 12.461.512

Level 28 produces 48,454
Level 29 produces 55,203 crystal per hour

Difference is poor 6749 crystal per hour for which I need to accumulate 12.461.512! I will need 77 days to replace with new surplus 12mil invested into one level higher mine!


Please consider following solution:
raise crystal mines output or
change ammounts of metal and crystal for lgs and ecs ships.

As I see things: crystal is most valuable resource in game not deuterium. Trade formula 3:2:1 should be more metal:deuterium:crystal or crystal is worth at least 1:1 against deuterium.

I play on speed server.

i disagree with about everything youve just said...you must not be a fleeter becase the amount of deuterium you need to hunt and FS is huge...And as a fleeter i can get alot of crystal through crashing other people...i cant recycle Deu from a DF...

so i say no leave it the way it is...

it doesnt matter the output of teh resource so much, moreso what you do with it. If you are not going to be a fleeter and just be a miner, then you will have multiple planets close together and you can move shipments back and forth. 77/9= 8.5 days. but if you intend to never raid expect that you will never reach that level because you will be farmed anyways.

I'll give you a little secret tip: find a fleeter, and sell them your deut for crystal. It works wonders.

It does, I traded with kick once and got a whole bunch of crystal.

or just sit on ur crystal till it grows double.... might just work...

enough trolling dude res are balanced in the game u just need to know what to poke. here is a few pointers

some known crystal deposits.

* find a player with a moderate fleet score who doesnt have graviton tech. watch him over he might go for sat. sat is a big deposit of crystals.

* find a good farm with high enough crystal mines.

* have your own deut mine florish so what u can sell excess deut for crystals.

* go boom and crash some bc flet to earn crystal.

if u still cant find crystal then u really need to dig one or two mine urself in your planets ... (trolling again)

I'm quite enough fleeter thank you. I think I'm second or third on server in hits and my fleet is around no. 10 in speed server but I still develop build because others also do and top fleets are too big and Strong.

So please discuss numbers I presented and spare me of your empty comments.

I say res are not balanced and especially now with lunar guardians and elite cargos.

our comments arnt empty plain and simple there are no numbers to talk...everyone who has posted disagrees...plain an simple listen to spy's advice...if you can't im sure you wont have to worry about that fleet being top 10 anymore...



EDIT: and theres an edit button for a reason no need to double post...

I'm sure I can advise you about fleeting targets and everything you wrote.

Now please comment ammount of crystal you need for level 29 mine and difference in future output. Also about cost of new types of ships.

If you don't have anything to write please don't post.