your 5 for 5 on rage posts right now...and i have lvl 30 mines and im not even outta noob protection....there is no need for change...mine prices are good the way they are stop complaining...go raid an active player and get your crystal...crash a fleet...or just save up your res from mines? This game isnt instant gratification it takes time for some things...and this just plain out aint gonna happen

You said it only made 6,749 more crystal per hour? Well, that's 161,976 more per day, multiplied by 10 planets is 1,619,760 a day, which is more than enough for an elite cargo. 161,976*7=1,133,832 MORE crystal per week. Not to mention that you already have output from your mines, so it's more like 8,140,272 PLUS 1,133,832. The added on is more than 10% of what you had before, it's approximately a 14% increase. I think that's a fair increase. You would be making 9,274,104 crystal a week, and 1.3 mil a day. I don't think you should be complaining.

Edit: note the final ratio is on ONE planet.

You wanted to talk numbers, here's your numbers. I got all of these from your first post, enjoy.

I wrote that you need 77 days to get back ammount you invested into higher level with new surplus. But I need to invest in mines as nobody will take them from me and my fleet may get crushed. I don't count my fleet as eternal as out there are few with millions in fleet points.

I will compare with metal mine on higher level.
Metal Mine (Level 32)
It produces 121.615 per hour.

Metal Mine (Level 33)
Resources Needed : Metal: 25.886.392 Crystal: 6.471.598
It produces 137.957 per hour.

Difference is 16.342 per hour. You need 66 days to regain invested metal with new higher output. (25.886.392 / 16.342 / 24)


With few levels lower crystal mine you need 77 days. Ships which cost same ammounts of metal and crystal are only for bonus.

Resources are quite unbalanced.

They are SUPPOSED to be unbalanced.

A raiding/mining/fleeting combination (such as Torgard's or Gozar's) gives the most points quickest in the end. You will want some mines, however I don't like the wait time to get the resources back, the same thing you are describing. That is nothing wrong with the game, that just means you do not like the miner route. Learn the ways of fleeting and realize that you can grow much faster, or if you want guaranteed building points, raid to put it into that. Personally on Extreme if you saw my BC total, Kron's BC total and PKs Lunar total, you would realize that you can still find crystal in this game...

As for trade ratio, deuterium is by far the most valuable resource.

albatros wrote:I'm quite enough fleeter thank you. I think I'm second or third on server in hits and my fleet is around no. 10 in speed server but I still develop build because others also do and top fleets are too big and Strong.

So please discuss numbers I presented and spare me of your empty comments.

How about this...its not a sit on your *** game and watch it grow. Its a war game. Wealth anywhere is built on a combination of things to include interest, negotiations, output and work. So if you choose to be singular minded and only want crystal to be higher because youwant more then really you need to get off the game and try solitaire. But be ware, they put 4 suits in the deck.

ok, they are supposed to be unbalanced.

I can live with that explanation.

I also noticed that raiding/mining/fleeting combination gives fastest growth.

Did we really go through all of that so you would just accept that they're supposed to be unbalanced?