Re: Martial Arts

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Ghost- wrote:everyone think kick boxing + bjj = win but really it all depend on the practitioner.
It is always about the practicioner. Kickboxing and BJJ are two very different disciplines though. Kickboxing and BJJ is a potent combination, though there are very few who have excelled at both. There are a number of different combinations that can cause bad style matchups as well.

For example, a great takedown artist whether their primary discipline is wrestling or judo with some submission defense can take down and control somebody with Kickboxing and BJJ. A Muay-thai fighter or a fighter with good Greco-Roman skills and striking can devastate a kickboxer, unless your name is Chuck Norris or the more legendary Lee Carr.

With mixed martial arts we have had the opportunity to see fighters with different disciplines square off. The best blend of martial arts (including the traditional martial arts forms and Western boxing and wrestling) has been argued ad infinitum. Most of the most popular modern martial arts were blends of different styles. The modern mixed martial artist typically cross trains with coaches of different disciplines to reinforce those particular skills, then spars where anything goes to test their overall skills.

In all honesty, their is no silver bullet, no magical combination that is the best. If you look at the most respected MMA fighters in the world today you will find that those select few have become the best by excelling in arts that were considered to be useless by many.

Fedor Emelianenko, is primarily a combat Sambo specialist. He is considered by most MMA experts to be the best in the world, yet few know anything about Sambo. Sambo was a discipline developed in the old Soviet Union for personal combat situations in the military. It is the national fighting sport in Russia and in other areas of the former Soviet Union, yet few outside the MMA community have even heard of it.

Lyoto Machida, the current UFC Light Heavyweight champion is a fighter who's primary discipline is Karate. Karate and many other traditional martial artist were considered useless in the modern arena by many fans and experts, yet Machida remains undefeated and an enigma who's weakness has yet to be discovered, undefeated in 15 fights in the 6 years he has fought mixed martial arts. Georges St. Pierre base is Kenpo Karate, yet he is a true prodigy who has excelled in MMA.

To many the best martial arts and disciplines is religion and holds the same virtue and vices. There are a myriad of examples demonstrating how each martial art or discipline is the best or most dangerous or most effective.

It all boils down to head and heart. Behind each of these disciplines are techniques that have been proven and reinforced by their success in combat situations. How effectively you are able to execute those strategies while keeping your opponent's strengths at bay makes all the difference in the world. Despite all this, one errant punch that reaches its target can fell even the greatest fighter. That is what makes MMA so exciting and unpredictable. You just never know.
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Re: Martial Arts

#22
Though I'm a teacher in the few that I listed, I'm a student in many more. I study many disciplinary (and by that I mean I've been punched in the face for talking in class :oops:) styles. My favorites are definately Tae-Kwon-Do and Jujitsu.

At home, I practice TKD and Jujitsu together - making new combinations with using Chi (took me FOREVER to master it) and the ability to - not only predict - but KNOW how my opponet will attack/react. In this, I'm actually attempting to create my own unique style. I've tried using Chi with TKD Weapons (such as the katana) and ended up annihilating my room and got cut up pretty bad from the flying debris everywhere :lol:. But I find my own style to be quite complex and extremely useful for both mind and body.

As for locations:

There are TONS (like 90%) of martial arts places that teach more than one style. For example; my dojo says "Tae-Kwon-Do" on it but it teaches all of the styles that I listed ^^. Just find one place (a dojo or a gym), go in, and watch a few lessons. That's what I did when I first started!

For the sword fighting fanatics:

The katana is an EXTREMELY amazing weapon. Don't use Chi with it like I did :D. Practicing with the katana is one of the most highly respected techniques in the ancient Eastern principles. I'd check it out if you really want a good, sharp, and shiny challenge ^^.
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Re: Martial Arts

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Khan I must say that was very well put. Personally I believe that there is a style that matches up better then others for every person sometimes it's as simple as body type, some styles are more strength oriented and others more reliant upon speed and cunning. As far as MMA goes I look at it this way lots of MMA fighters try to obtain a general balance with some sway to their preferred style. Jack of all trades master of none. If you focus on one area and master it along with a few supplementary skills often times you can easily trump and well rounded fighter because once you force him into you area of mastery the chances of their victory can decline immensely and you can gain control of the fight. But enough I'm too tired and I can't even tell if this little ditty makes a lick of sense.

And Gale I agree the Katana is like a steel master piece. I prefer to use a shinai for experimenting with new kata and techniques the length and weight are a bit different but it's good to know the potential and helps build muscle memory without risk of breaking to many things... Yeah practicing weapons in a smallish room can go wrong pretty quick I remember when I first got my shinai I took a few experimental swings and smashed the ceiling light >.<
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Re: Martial Arts

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Surrias wrote: I took a few experimental swings and smashed the ceiling light >.<
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I DID! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I had glass shards the size of my nails in my calf. It hurt SO bad....Lol I'm never using Chi with a Katana in a closed room again. :D
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Re: Martial Arts

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it is not just styles that matter. Matt Hughes has shown that a wrestler with proper ground training can make a pretzel out of everyone, but that was mainly because of his insane strength. all the best fighters are skilled but also very athletic and intelligent. the sport has evolved to the point where skill and strength is not good enough to be the best. intelligence and game planning is needed also now. Right now GSP, Silva, and Machida are all highly intelligent fighters with very good physical attributes and have no holes in their skills. except silva i think a smart wrestler with a good sub cam can take him out. I think Maia or Marquardt can beat him who ever wins that amazing match up (i am picking maia by choke rd1)
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Re: Martial Arts

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I'm old school. Literally. I was heavily into Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan (or Mu Duk Kwan) before joining the Army. Once in, I learned many styles of combatives and fell in love with Cambo. I think it should be taught to every soldier in the free world.

But in all honesty, there's something very gratifying about carrying a .45 or .357. Heh.

Re: Martial Arts

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Man, that IS old school. That was a main-stream style in Eastern Asia in the 1400's; wasn't it?! :lol:
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Re: Martial Arts

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Slash wrote:I'm old school. Literally. I was heavily into Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan (or Mu Duk Kwan) before joining the Army. Once in, I learned many styles of combatives and fell in love with Cambo. I think it should be taught to every soldier in the free world.

But in all honesty, there's something very gratifying about carrying a .45 or .357. Heh.

i suggest Krav Maga that should cover most of the real world situations involving fire arms and real fights
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