Zorg Empire

I 'm not posting this because I consider it to be a big hit, but because it was launched to teach
some RESPECT.
That player curtis, whose rank at that time was something like 150 below mine, probed 2 of my planets. I waited for about 1 hour for some message telling me it was a mistake. No message.
I found and probed most of his planets, locating his fleet. Still no response.
After 10 minutes, I launched a fake attack to see if he was online. Indeed he was, immediately he took his fleet and res from that planet and guess what: he mocked my "failed" attempt through PM.
I recalled the attack.
Many hours later, I relocated his fleet and launched the real attack to find out that this player, apart from his arrogance, had two other characteristics that when they coexist, constitute a weakness:
1. He needs to sleep.
2. He does not fleetsave.
Nevertheless, it was a profitable hit. Sorry for the long introduction:

The attacker has won the battle !
You receive 112580 units of Metal, 303607 units of Crystal and 46374 units of Deuterium.
The attacker has lost a total of 8.587.500 units.
The defender has lost a total of 41.036.150 units.
A debris field containing 16.087.440 units of Metal and 9.002.850 units of Crystal has formed in orbit around the planet.
The probability of creating a moon is : 20 %

No moon, as he already had one (most probably due to some other disrespectful action).
All DF recovered, although I needed to send my recyclers twice.
90% of my losses were fodder ships.
Profit approximately 15M including all fleet and recycler fuel costs.

PS: first they do all that sort of stuff I just described and then they whine! Unbelievable!

OMG! HE PROBED ME! ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!

If I attacked people every time I got probed, I'd have a few hundred enemies. You need to settle down there, mister. Its a game where people attack each other. You're going to get probed. Probing isn't "disrespectful".

But, it is a nice hit, nonetheless. Good ratio for the losses.

good hit! i have attacked people that never even probed me... so spy missions are good enough to get my attention. as for enemies i have so many that i can count my allies on my hands and a bunch of toes

Thanks, sad. The respect is mutual.
I really don't know what to do with these people.
You destroy them, they call you a bully and accuse you of destroying the game.
You leave them be, and they think you are an idiot.
They can't even see that the first thing that comes to my mind when I get probed by a much lower ranked player is that he is doing that on behalf of someone else to check reactions.

Urweirdsaysi, I hereby quote a posting of yours in EXACTLY the same case, when Mintaka was probed and reacted EXACTLY in the same manner as I did:

Holy crap.
Why don't we make two Top tens, one for Mintaka and one for everyone else
Amazing hit, though. GLOTR.

Is it the same person talking here or do I miss something?

that guy actually attacked mintaka... not just probed him

He must have been completely out of his mind...
Anyway, I thought he just probed him because Mintaka said:

Revenge hit. Maybe he'll think twice before probing me again.

nah i saw the df over one of mintaka's planets he even gave mintaka a moon which was basically game over for him. I dont bother to probe mintaka even if i can catch a small part of his fleet separated you cant win. Mintaka did not get to be #1 by not being competative

Urweirdsaysi wrote:OMG! HE PROBED ME! ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!

If I attacked people every time I got probed, I'd have a few hundred enemies. You need to settle down there, mister. Its a game where people attack each other. You're going to get probed. Probing isn't "disrespectful".

But, it is a nice hit, nonetheless. Good ratio for the losses.

You have to admit that probing a stronger player is risky business. I like nothing better than uncovering nice farming and fleeting opportunities from weaker players scanning my planets.

I disagree about the probing. I think most people probe for two reasons. Either to find farming and fleeting opportunities from weaker players, or if it is of a stronger player, simply an attempt to monitor the whereabouts of their fleet or gauge their strength.

Probing a stronger player that has not probed you or done something you find suspicious (colonizing a new planet very close to one of yours) is asking for trouble.

I have to say I had the same EXACT experience with Curtis myself about a week or two ago. He probed me, I probed him back, saw that he was weak and attacked. He moved his fleet/resources and sent me a taunting message. I probed him again an hour later, sent an attack fleet and wiped out whatever fleet he had on the nearby planets.

Nice hit Templar. Good luck on the rebuild Curtis.

Thanks for the input, Khan.
It clearly matches my thoughts about the eligible and acceptable reasons for probing as well as demonstrates that some people keep repeating the same mistakes and instead of contemplating and learning from these mistakes, they just PM you whining endlessly when the consequence comes upon them.

Khan wrote: I disagree about the probing. I think most people probe for two reasons. Either to find farming and fleeting opportunities from weaker players, or if it is of a stronger player, simply an attempt to monitor the whereabouts of their fleet or gauge their strength.

Either way, jumping down someone's throat because they probe you is just idiotic and a good way to get yourself crashed if you miss judge it. For all he knew, there could have been a large fleet around the corner ready for a Defend. Its happened before

The only ones I don't probe are the ones that I know aren't dumb enough to leave their fleet unattended. Probing doesn't mean they're going to attack you, especially if you're actually playing smart, anyways. I couldn't tell you how many times I've been probed in the last couple hours. If I tried to give each of them a "lesson in respect" I'd probably crash the server from all the Reports that'd be flooding my way.

Just to get things straight, I'm not pissed that you attacked him. It doesn't really matter to me, I'm not going to get pissy because an Alliance-mate got crashed, thats not how I do things. I just find it very cocky of you to think you're special and that no one should probe you. Ever. I'll be damned if I'm told I can't spy someone, I don't care who it is.

And as for my post in Mintaka's hit, he isn't trying to threaten anyone that happens to be sending mass probes (Which happens all the time, as I'm sure you're aware). I'm not going to apologize for sending a probe to someone's planet, thats just stupid. "Omg, omg, omg, I didnt meen 2 probez joo! Plez dunt atuck meh!"

I'll admit I tend not to probe those well out of my league, simply because the odds of me finding anything (And even being able to get at it) is slim to none. But that doesn't mean I'm going to be intimidated by something like this. Curtis made a mistake (And apparently he fleet-saved but his internet went down this morning and wasn't able to get on. Not sure on the legitimacy of that, though) and he paid for it, simple as that. I just found the "it was launched to teach
some RESPECT." a bit cocky and the fact that you EXPECTED him to immediately send some sort of apology for simply probing you was just...well, ignorant. It doesn't affect me either way whether he is in my Alliance or not, if you had done to same thing to someone I had never heard of, I would have responded the same way.

Just want to make sure you understand this isn't some sort of attempt for me to stick up for him, I don't believe in fighting other people's battles.