What happens to the cargo loaded while an attack was done and u loose some of the LC along with it?
Say u have attacked a coordinate with 1K LC that has a 25 mil cargo space. and upon dispatch u fill the cargo hold with 12.5 mil resources. on an attac u loose 400 LC, which still has the capacity to hold the entire cargo. What will become of the cargo at that stage?
also what happens when u loose more than necessary cargo space? for the current scenario what will become of the cargo if u lose more than 500 LC?
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#2The raid capacity of your fleet will only be computed at the end of the battle.
If you loaded resources when you launched the attack, it will be deducted to your total cargo capacity.
If you completely fill up your cargo hold with resources and you lost most of the LCs or any ship, resources almost* equal to the cargo hold of the lost ships will disappear.
*Keep in mind that there is free cargo space you used for fuel when you launched the attack.
If you loaded resources when you launched the attack, it will be deducted to your total cargo capacity.
If you completely fill up your cargo hold with resources and you lost most of the LCs or any ship, resources almost* equal to the cargo hold of the lost ships will disappear.
*Keep in mind that there is free cargo space you used for fuel when you launched the attack.

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#3a lil bit of numbers would be appreciated. i dont have much trust on words.
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#4I think what Neo is saying is it is based on percentages. If the ships that you lose account for half your cargo hold, then you will lose half of the resources that your fleet was carrying. dont feel like getting more specific, but I hope that explains it better. I could be wrong on this as I never tested it just an assumption.

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#5This is assuming that what neoshagrath said is accurate.
you launch a fleet will 8k LC which has a cargo capacity of 200mil and placed 100mil on the fleet. If you then loose 4k LC in a battle you will still have exactly 100mil cargo capacity left (because you only need to save space for fuel on launch) and you will loose none of your original resources. If however you loose 6k LC you will only have 50mil cargo capacity left and you will loose half of the resources you sent with the fleet.
With that understanding what I would like to know is in what order you loose the resources? Example if you send 8k LC and you lost 6k as in the last example but you had filled the fleet with half metal and half duet would you loose half of each or would you loose all your metal or all your duet?
you launch a fleet will 8k LC which has a cargo capacity of 200mil and placed 100mil on the fleet. If you then loose 4k LC in a battle you will still have exactly 100mil cargo capacity left (because you only need to save space for fuel on launch) and you will loose none of your original resources. If however you loose 6k LC you will only have 50mil cargo capacity left and you will loose half of the resources you sent with the fleet.
With that understanding what I would like to know is in what order you loose the resources? Example if you send 8k LC and you lost 6k as in the last example but you had filled the fleet with half metal and half duet would you loose half of each or would you loose all your metal or all your duet?
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#6ok lemme simplify what i asked for, the answer may not as simple as hoped tho.
Is it the case that the lost resources on an attack mission of the carry cargo hold, as per LC lost, assuming that each LC is given an average cargo hold. by average i mean if i send 40 LC with a cargo hold of 1 mil holding 500K cargo and loosing 20 of them will deduce cargo by 20x(500K/40)=20x12500 which is 250K (half of original cargo space). or it will still contain the 500K cargo as 20 LC has a cargo hold of 500K (not including fuel consumption for simplicity)?
now the not simple part is, if we add a RIP to that equation the average do not apply that simply, as the RIP adds cargo hold of 1 mil to the total which is equivalent to another 40 LC. for that alone the LC would have an average of 500K/80=6250 average cargo stash. so losing 20 LC will depleted your original cargo by 20x6250=125000 and u are left with 375000.
the above scenario gets more complected as as you mix different ships to it.
So now that you have all the cases, experts input or a means of verification will be appreciated.
Is it the case that the lost resources on an attack mission of the carry cargo hold, as per LC lost, assuming that each LC is given an average cargo hold. by average i mean if i send 40 LC with a cargo hold of 1 mil holding 500K cargo and loosing 20 of them will deduce cargo by 20x(500K/40)=20x12500 which is 250K (half of original cargo space). or it will still contain the 500K cargo as 20 LC has a cargo hold of 500K (not including fuel consumption for simplicity)?
now the not simple part is, if we add a RIP to that equation the average do not apply that simply, as the RIP adds cargo hold of 1 mil to the total which is equivalent to another 40 LC. for that alone the LC would have an average of 500K/80=6250 average cargo stash. so losing 20 LC will depleted your original cargo by 20x6250=125000 and u are left with 375000.
the above scenario gets more complected as as you mix different ships to it.
So now that you have all the cases, experts input or a means of verification will be appreciated.
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#7You got all the verification you needed from the first two lines in Neo's post.
It's that simple. Ship types are irrelevant, cargo capacity is generated as a singular number. Losing ships and making your capacity fall below what you are already carrying will destroy resources down to the maximum new capacity. No if's, no but's, it's that simple.neoshagrath wrote:The raid capacity of your fleet will only be computed at the end of the battle.
If you loaded resources when you launched the attack, it will be deducted to your total cargo capacity.

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#8in that case i think there is a problem. i lost LC on an attack mission (was a fs to a wrong coordinate), but the returning fleet got more cargo hold than the resources that were stashed in it. in the process i also lost resources.
the above does not really explains whats in the game.
the above does not really explains whats in the game.
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#9A post for the bug section then, don't you think?SPY wrote:in that case i think there is a problem. i lost LC on an attack mission (was a fs to a wrong coordinate), but the returning fleet got more cargo hold than the resources that were stashed in it. in the process i also lost resources.
the above does not really explains whats in the game.

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#10hence the discussion. rather be sure its a bug then just post it. rest is i mod's hand to move it.
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